Reading Response for 10/30

“The Discourse of Academics” by Mike Rose p. 145

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38 thoughts on “Reading Response for 10/30

  1. why do elitist societies govern the way the public views how deserving they are of an education?
    why should people of less-than-privilaged education be isolated from the rest?
    i really liked how Rose structured his paper it sounds like he’s talking to the audience.

  2. Can Rose’s article be given to every teacher so all students can be taught how to write and speak like this?

    Are there any plausible ways to spread this type of education throughout America? The world?

    I like Rose’s anecdote and comparison to religion. His sentences are also very complex and it makes the piece more interesting to read. I wonder how many commas he used.

  3. Do you think Rose is overreacting or exaggerating when he says he wanted to destroy the Socialist Workers newspaper every time he walked by it? Or did he actually hate it that much?

    Why does the author discuss vocabulary as a non-issue for college freshmen, but then use a rather advanced vernacular in the rest of the passage?

    I found “The Discourse of Academics” rather hard to get through even though it was so short, because it did not capture my interest in the slightest.

  4. Why don’t high school teachers realize that the key to students’ mastery of linguistics and intelligence stems from intelligent discussion and not always worksheets on grammar?

    Is the author using such big words because he wants to demonstrate that his intelligent discussions with university professors have bettered his use of the language?

    I found this piece very hard to read and I ended up tuning half of it out due to his usage of big words when he could have said what he needed to say in plain everyday language.

  5. This piece of writing was a very interesting to read I will advise most to teachers to read this and take some notes .

    whats is the authors purpose for writing this article ? who is the target audience

    Rose overall flow of the paper was written very well . I could really read everything smoothly .

  6. What is the best way to prepare students or for the students to prepare that are considered to come from “less-than-privileged” educations?

    Is the exclusion of others through these discussions done purposely or is it something that is just over looked?

    I think this should be nailed to the doors to every high school in America.

    Le’otis Boswell-Johnson

  7. do remedial programs help or hurt the student?

    Is it possible to incorporate discussion in high school classes?

    I agree with rose. I think discussion is one of the best ways to learn because say things helps you understand them.

    Timmy Corrigan

  8. What is the importance of writing about what is taught?
    The rate of education for kids in this country is huge? Why does the author make it seem that “few” students receive an education?
    I don’t agree with the generalization that students who came from a less-priviledged school has a low confidence level. It all depends on the person.

  9. How would limited vocabulary cause a student to withdraw from school?
    If writing more papers is all it takes to improve students vocabulary and ability to intelligently have a conversation, how come high schools don’t require students to write more?
    I don’t learn vocabulary and speaking skills from writing, I learn it from being in a casual conversation and being forced to figure it out.

  10. What first encouraged the author to become so interested in learning?

    How could the author spread his ideas to every classroom effectively?

    I found this article interesting, I liked reading about the author’s opinions on learning.

    Christie Gleason

  11. Is this excerpt directed more towards students or teachers?
    What is Rose trying to accomplish with the use of big words in the beginning of the excerpt?
    I have not been in a situation where I could not comprehend something because of my personal beliefs and opinions. I stay open-minded most of the time.

  12. Who did they write this for?
    Why is the author interested in learning?
    Very interesting, I would like to see more of their work.

  13. Why would coming from a less than privileged education cause you to withdraw from scholarly discussions?
    What does Mike Rose mean when he says, “They need opportunities to talk about what they’re learning?”
    I agree with Rose that the word “remedial” makes students think less of themselves.

  14. Why do teachers feel that it is necessary to cram knowledge down your throat through work sheets?
    Do you think its possible this could change the way teachers teach?
    This was not the most fun read ever.

  15. Why not help those who feel excluded to learn?
    Why would the author think that the Socialist Workers newspaper is malevolent and evil, if the newspaper didn’t harm him in any way?
    I liked that he addressed cultural differences and how parents, religion, and education can influence how one looks at the world.

    -Becky B.

  16. If writing is the best way for all students to learn vocabulary than why do teachers spend so much time on other methods?

    Why are all under privileged students assumed to be in need of remedial classes?

    I don’t think that all students with less privileged education want to withdrawal from education. I think that choice is different for everyone.

  17. The author talked about this like it was common knowledge, but what is Marxism?

    Are remedial classes meant to make it easier for the student? or are they meant to just review information that other students learned earlier?

    This was a very interesting writing that made me think about some flaws in the academic system.

  18. Why did Mike Rose make Freshman sound extremely dumb?

    Why does he compare things to himself so much?

    I feel like this reading is very opinionated.

  19. Why would a lower class, less privileged student have less courage to learn?
    Why does the author only really describe faults with religious universities?
    I feel the author has a very biased view on universities because of his own past experience.

  20. Why does he compare so much about the lower class?
    What does he mean when he said some students need to find a place within a course or outside it?
    The word choices are making this story hard to understand.

    Michelle Wu

  21. What is the point of the story?
    Do I not understand what he is trying to say because I am a university freshman?
    I my eyes were glazed over this whole essay and I couldn’t find a way to be interested in the story.

  22. What do teachers mainly do to expand their students vocabulary?

    How are completely different subjects linked together and relate?

    Having differences in language only expands people’s minds and make them learn more, rather than having the same language throughout your life.

  23. Do some teachers expect you to know what they are saying or do they just not care?

    Why does Rose talk about students not being able to understand in a language that was not very understandable.

    I think Rose is talking about himself in this story.

  24. Andrew Miller

    Do you think this is article intends to offer serious suggestions to teachers?

    Do you think he is placing too much emphasis on a student’s vocabulary?

    I thought the reading brought up some valid points but it is very opinion-driven.

  25. Renee Lemire

    How did Rose come up with such concrete solutions? I know he has been teaching for awhile, but did he do research, surveys, experiments to get these solutions?

    Why did Rose use “authoritarian personality” as his example?

    What Rose discussed about students feeling like they are the only one in the class that is not up to par, I understood where he was coming from. In some of my harder high school classes, it felt like that and to have Rose talk about that is very comforting.

  26. Do you think the author chose to write about this topic because he wanted his audience to be able to relate to it?

    Do you think the way Rose wrote it was like saying that Univesity freshman are naive and stupid?

    I think that the author wrote this story based off his own personal experiences.

  27. Does this essay help the “less privileged?”
    Is this essay supposed to attempt to change how teachers teach?
    The author made some good points but it doesn’t do much for anyone.

  28. Why do schools reserve certain education privileges for the elite?
    Why don’t teachers teach material that we actually need in the future?
    Rose has some very good points in his story but it wasn’t very exciting to read.
    Lauren Anthony

  29. Why if he is having trouble understanding what is being said does he not ask for help?
    Why do certain people from certain areas not have access to the same educational material as others from maybe the same area?
    Overall it seemed like a good story about exclusion.
    Palmer Harper

  30. Why did the author use such complex words when discussing how that can sometimes alienate people?

    When does the author think that this whole “exclusion” started in schools?

    The idea to treat all students the same is a great one and I feel it will have positive repercussions.

  31. Do you believe all lower class students will feel left out or excluded when going to a large university?

    What is the audience the author is trying to target? the students or professors?

    Great read, i wonder is many professors take this into consideration. Very interesting to see someone think from a students point of view.

  32. What plan is Rose trying to implement?
    Do you believe it is possible to bring the necessary educational language to common high school students?
    I found it easy to relate to how Rose describes exclusion through jargon.

  33. Who is the target audience of the text?
    Why does the author compare everything to himself?
    The text was difficult to comprehend fully.

  34. The author makes a reference to very few “privileged children” being able to get a good education, is that necessarily true or does it depend on a person’s character and upbringing?
    How does money affect a student going to a big university, where a majority of students have lots of money?
    I don’t necessarily agree with the author making excuses for students needing opportunities and what not to have a topic to write about. I believe in motivation and handwork brought on by one’s self.

  35. Why does Mike Rose’s care about other peoples vocabulary?
    How was the Mike Rose’s “school talk” growing up?
    I can personally relate to “unprepared students” because my vocabulary is not strong

  36. Does Rose’s opinion on the powerful affects of conversation pertain to learning a second language?
    Is having a large vocabulary necessary to be part of the “elite”?
    Interesting point of view, I like that the professor has this point of view.

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